tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post7921235563949205041..comments2024-03-17T19:32:26.043+00:00Comments on Daughter of the Soil: Red-podded pea update: the F3 cropRebsie Fairholmhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17811733792196954188noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-18334651341811230022012-02-06T12:58:39.904+00:002012-02-06T12:58:39.904+00:00These r gorgeous!
I would grow them in the flowr b...These r gorgeous!<br />I would grow them in the flowr beds...<br />Stuff edibility, they're too purdy to eat neway.<br /><br />Interesting that they're inedible... Usually brighter colours come with increased taste.stonehttp://www.stonethegardener.com/wp/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-86223396011974903432010-04-06T08:46:16.724+01:002010-04-06T08:46:16.724+01:00Really fascinating stuff! Fingers crossed for this...Really fascinating stuff! Fingers crossed for this year's growing. I can see real commercial potential for a red mangetout!Matronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705506930308472527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-19689476688156196322010-04-05T17:59:39.889+01:002010-04-05T17:59:39.889+01:00Good to see your peas are still thriving. Those re...Good to see your peas are still thriving. Those red pods are beautiful.<br />I'm getting quite a collection of different peas varieties now - and will have to be more selective or I'll run out of space. <br /><br />I still love the Salmon Flowered peas and will grow them in the decorative borders this year - thank you for the seed swap the other year.<br /><br />Best wishes<br />CeliaCelia Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12776686088752602321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-61189119340808997472010-04-05T12:31:03.807+01:002010-04-05T12:31:03.807+01:00Rebsie,
One of the plants from the seed you sent ...Rebsie,<br /><br />One of the plants from the seed you sent me last season had potential as a shelling pea, I actually sent you an email about it a few days ago.<br /><br />I managed to save a few seed from it and their yours if you want them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-18981715577314683082010-04-05T07:30:28.638+01:002010-04-05T07:30:28.638+01:00@Madeline McKeever
It might be worth contacting...@Madeline McKeever <br /><br />It might be worth contacting the Open Plant Breeding Foundation, whose avowed aim is "empowering organic growers to breed for disease resistance" - their advisor, Raoul Robinson has done work on breeding disease resistant potatoes and beans using recurrent mass selection techniques. He has a couple of ebooks available on the subject: http://sharebooks.ca/ebooks_by_author2.php?author=Robinson%2C+Raoul+A.<br /><br />I would guess that the kind of weather resistance you describe would be polygenic and therefore amenable to mass selection techniques.Rhizowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13898344291012563139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-75106172773961520612010-04-05T00:46:48.880+01:002010-04-05T00:46:48.880+01:00Thanks, I will try.Thanks, I will try.Madeline McKeeverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17134381548508413567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-78616350694947380882010-04-05T00:03:40.613+01:002010-04-05T00:03:40.613+01:00Hello Kevin, yes that's a fair point and I am ...Hello Kevin, yes that's a fair point and I am open to the idea of developing a standard shelling pea with red pods. I've done minimal taste-testing because I need to keep most of it for seed, but so far the peas themselves are mealy and bitter and not really worth eating fresh. They might be edible as a soup pea. I know I can do better than this - it's just going to take a couple of years longer.<br /><br />Madeline - that's a good question. I don't know anything about the genes for weather resistance - will have to look in the JIC's Pisum gene database and see if they have anything. You can learn so much from experimentation though, so I would suggest making crosses with Irish Green Pea to any/all of the other peas which you want to improve. It should be obvious even in the F1 generation whether the rain resistance trait (if it is just one gene) is dominant or recessive. Then in the F2 you will get a much clearer picture and be able to select the lines that work best. I'll see what I can find out in the mean time.<br /><br />Thanks everyone for comments - they are always appreciated.Rebsie Fairholmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17811733792196954188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-34787493148878760682010-04-04T14:30:27.198+01:002010-04-04T14:30:27.198+01:00just found your blog through ag biodiversity and l...just found your blog through ag biodiversity and love it! especially all the serious amateur plant breedingMatt DiLeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08602997050973123349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-76517930592429390132010-04-04T10:40:17.541+01:002010-04-04T10:40:17.541+01:00Dear Rebsie, I get really excited about breeding p...Dear Rebsie, I get really excited about breeding peas when I read your blog, and I am looking forward to buying your new varieties when they come out. I would like some advice please. During the last few summers we have had trouble saving pea seeds because it rains all the time and the pods open and drop the peas or go all mouldy. However, the heritage variety called 'Irish Green Pea', which I got from the Irish Seed Savers Association is unbothered by persistent rain and produces unblemished peas. I would like to breed this into some of the other varieties and would like to know how best to start off. Do you know how many genes might be involved in pod resiliance?Madeline McKeeverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17134381548508413567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-35670442452359487002010-04-04T10:03:22.663+01:002010-04-04T10:03:22.663+01:00They certainly have the looks! My first thought w...They certainly have the looks! My first thought was back-crossing, but I think your no. 1 suggestion at least gives immediate gratification!Kathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12841961223771293021noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-25799146148129375302010-04-04T08:45:41.878+01:002010-04-04T08:45:41.878+01:00Excellent work Rebsie
The joys and frustrations o...Excellent work Rebsie<br /><br />The joys and frustrations of plant breeding summed up perfectly. I look forward to trying the finished product when It's available.Rhizowenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13898344291012563139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-36666407739961040522010-04-04T08:11:56.582+01:002010-04-04T08:11:56.582+01:00What a shame Rebsie. They do look stunning though ...What a shame Rebsie. They do look stunning though ;-)Judehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07141709686126022917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23047857.post-69007540525792123262010-04-04T04:17:46.016+01:002010-04-04T04:17:46.016+01:00They certainly are beautiful peas!
Some people mi...They certainly are beautiful peas!<br /><br />Some people might like a red-podded standard pea, non edible-podded. Are the peas themselves of this plant, good eating, apart from the pods?<br /><br />Kevin <br />(another pea fancier in BC, Canada)Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11740537436953734830noreply@blogger.com